Tuesday, January 26, 2010


Have I mentioned how much fun the Times-Call comments can be? Sure, there's generally a ton of libels in there about me but sometimes a truly fun exchange can be had...


Start at the bottom and work up.

Photo taken from Black and WTF

Actually the computer had gone psychotic and was given a 'lobotomy' by removing it's higher logic functions so that it would function merely as a machine. The parallels to the current council condition are ironically similar. Not to mention, the reason Hal -went- nuts was because he was ordered to keep a secret. The ironometer is pegging, must stop now. But enjoying your input immensely.

M. Douglas Wray, Longmont, CO, 1/27/2010 12:18 AM                        Report abuse

What was it HAL 9000 the artificial intelligence computer said as his cord was pulled? LOL, Mr. Wray.

Richard Yale, Longmont, CO, 1/26/2010 11:47 PM                        Report abuse

Dr. Freud! Hurry! LOL.

M. Douglas Wray, Longmont, CO, 1/26/2010 11:05 PM                        Report abuse

Apparently Doug and Kaye didn't watch the council meeting tonight (or maybe didn't pay attention since you were there, I assume you were watching?) The Mayor addressed the ideas he brought up at the retreat - they were just ideas. Why don't we make the work the council is doing the center of focus and not how many ways you can bash the mayor, mayor pro-tem and other members of council. Have any gripes about the way Benker's Energy Incubator vote went? Guess that whole environmentally unfriendly council bit is out the window now, huh?

Longmonter, Longmont, CO, 1/26/2010 10:56 PM                        Report abuse

I'm decent? Really? :-D Dr. Freud, line one! (yes, HIM again Doctor... yes... THAT ONE... uh huh... Hurry please)

M. Douglas Wray, Longmont, CO, 1/26/2010 10:21 PM                        Report abuse

The council is trying to improve the process Mr. Wray. Your decent into an ad hominem attack on two personalities instead of offering a solution is admission you lost the argument and haven't figured it out yet.

Richard Yale, Longmont, CO, 1/26/2010 10:11 PM                        Report abuse

"...causing Mayor Baum to be bored and not get his list of things done..." - which really upsets the people holdng his receipt. I can imagine his discomfort. Failure to perform is usually punished severely by the GOP. No doubt having Tom 'The Hammer' Delay's ex-office-manager (Councilman Santos) sitting to his right is becoming less and less comforting. Funny how that works.

M. Douglas Wray, Longmont, CO, 1/26/2010 9:35 PM                        Report abuse

What has the Mayor suggested that isn't what they find appropriate in Boulder: http://www.bouldercolorado.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=528&Itemid=Public "Participation allows citizens to speak to the City Council on any City issue not scheduled for a public hearing later in the meeting, for a maximum of three minutes. This includes consent agenda items. Public Participation begins promptly at 6:00 p.m. and ideally concludes at 6:45. Public Participation is run on a first come, first served basis. You will be called in the order in which you signed up. You must sign up in person.
We may be unable to accommodate all the people who sign up within the 45 minute time period.. In that case, it is up to the Mayor to determine how to proceed. You will probably be offered the opportunity to speak after the last public hearing item. Please listen to the Mayor’s decision on this matter." If it is good enough for Boulder, why not Longmont? Some seem to think we should follow their lead, when our leaders do and some don't like it who enjoy free TV exposure and they might be cut short, they undercut their their credibility to follow Boulder the rest of the time.

Richard Yale, Longmont, CO, 1/26/2010 9:35 PM                        Report abuse

The mayor's attempt to limit the other council members is just as troubling as his attempt to limit the public. Each member only gets 3 minutes to speak? They can only ask one question at a time? What exactly is going on here? Who gave him the right to say how many questions a fellow council member can ask? I was always taught that the more information you have, the better the decision you can make. The only reason to limit discussion is if you already know how you are going to vote and don't want to be bothered with even going through the motions of pretending to listen to others. Clearly Baum has his agenda set and is looking to silence all that stand in his way or "waste his time". Yikes!

may rational minds prevail, Longmont, CO, 1/26/2010 8:28 PM                        Report abuse

Mayor Baum, If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. Part of your job is listening to those pesky citizens, including the ones that don't agree with you. We live in a democracy and that means everyone gets a chance to have their say - left, right and middle. I am always suspicious when someone tries to shut others out. If your principles and actions are just they will survive the scrutiny of others.

may rational minds prevail, Longmont, CO, 1/26/2010 8:02 PM                        Report abuse

In the real world I sit in meetings all of the time at work and someone is always yabbering on about something and taking my time away from my work as well. I end up having to put in OT to get things done that could have been done had I not been wasting my time in a meeting listening to some tool. In this case, someone is yabbering on and causing Mayor Baum to be bored and not get his list of things done. I can feel for you Mayor Baum; however, aren't the citizens your boss? Don't we pay your salary? Didn't we elect you so we could be heard? (yes I voted for you) Shouldn't you listen to us anyway, even the boring ones? just a thought.

time_to_rant, Longmont, CO, 1/26/2010 4:28 PM

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